Choate Machine - The quality has dropped [message #38616] |
Wed, 17 June 2015 22:52 |
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cajuntec
Messages: 1251 Registered: November 2009 Location: Williamsburg, VA
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I just got my son a new 10/22, and the LOP is still a bit long for him. So I ordered an M4 style stock from Choate Machine and Tool that is very similar to the one on his Encore rifle. I expected the same quality as I've come to expect, but was sadly disappointed in the finishing of the stock.
It looks like someone popped it out of the mold, screwed on the additional parts, and bagged it. No finish work was done. It has little plastic "fuzz" all over the stock, and there are mold marks and some divots that look like the plastic shrunk in the mold.
Overall, it will work for what we wanted it for - A "growing" stock for my son's new .22. However, I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed in the final finish of this product. If this is the new Choate standard, I'll be looking elsewhere for my next stock.
All the best,
Glenn
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Re: Choate Machine - The quality has dropped [message #38666 is a reply to message #38664] |
Sat, 27 June 2015 10:19 |
jamesgammel
Messages: 1708 Registered: August 2012 Location: Lovell, Wyoming
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Glenn,
I too have a history in the plastics industry dating 60's and 70's, extruded coated wire and also tubing in several different plastics composition. There has always been a quality control issue you can't physically inspect every 1/8 inch of wire or tubing as it comes out and is rolled/coiled up. It's coming out in hundreds of feet per second, maybe even faster now.
Jim
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Re: Choate Machine - The quality has dropped [message #38671 is a reply to message #38666] |
Sat, 27 June 2015 12:50 |
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cajuntec
Messages: 1251 Registered: November 2009 Location: Williamsburg, VA
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Rick / Jim,
I'd accept that quality control excuse if the part was one piece - comes out the machine, goes into a bag, and ships out the door. But that's not the case with this one. There is a metal adapter block on the back that is screwed into the plastic piece in question so that the receiver extension and adjustable stock can be attached. There is a castle nut that needs to be locked down onto the metal adapter block once that is installed. Then there is a metal sling stud with inside attached lock nut that goes on the front. I realize a lot of processes can be automated, but I don't see how either of those two extra pieces can be attached by a machine. In the process of those two pieces being attached, the installer would have plenty of time to see how fugly the plastic piece in question was. If it was all done by machine, I fail to understand how other areas of the quality control in assembly would have missed it.
Maybe I'm wrong in my assumptions and ideas. But for the cost of these stocks, I am extremely disappointed in what I received. Choate probably won't take it back now though, as I took light sandpaper to it to knock off all the fuzz. It ain't pretty, but it looks better than what I initially received.
All the best,
Glenn
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Re: Choate Machine - The quality has dropped [message #38695 is a reply to message #38692] |
Tue, 30 June 2015 12:55 |
jamesgammel
Messages: 1708 Registered: August 2012 Location: Lovell, Wyoming
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Even more here in Wyoming. Fewer people than in Cleveland, Ohio. More antelope than people. Just don't need or tolerate the NY people that screwed up that state. There's a town not too far from me, "Byron". They were working on getting gov't funding to put a public shooting range on some property that the town owned. A woman from some mid-west state went to the town meeting discussing it. She had recently moved and just happened to be about a half-block from where they were putting the range. She raised hell about being "so close" to such a dangerous area putting her and her kids at jeopardy. They asked her where she was from and how long she had been in Byron. She told them. They told her that SHE moved to a place that has it's own culture. That was evident when she considered the place she got. She was NOT going to change the whole town to her way of thinking, she was WAY out-voted. They suggested that if she was so concerned, she should move back to the nice place she moved here from, and the whole town would help her pack all their belongings and even have a send-off party in her and her family's honor on the town's dime. They would have bought her house, for a profit for her, and given her moving expenses.
Jim
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