| Spent Casing not ejecting [message #15152] |
Thu, 18 October 2012 09:01  |
pzipp
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Registered: December 2011
Location: Frenchtown, MT
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Okay, I've looked around on line for an answer, but thought I'd come to the sorce! I'm shooting a encore frame with a pro hunter barrel, all stainiless steel, and when I fire a round, it won't eject. I'm trying to find out if it's something I can fix, or just take it to a gunsmith.
What I found online said that there may be an imperfection on the inside of the chamber that is causing enough friction that the ejector won't extract the spent casing. i looked at my spent casings and on 4-5 of them I see some consistant markings ut not on all of them.
Advise?
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| Re: Spent Casing not ejecting [message #15160 is a reply to message #15153] |
Thu, 18 October 2012 09:31  |
jamesgammel
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Registered: August 2012
Location: Lovell, Wyoming
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First off, are we using a wrong term? Some rifles and shotguns, and pistols do have "ejectors" and are capable of ejecting a cartridge. Encores and Contenders do not "eject" (throw fired or unfired cases completely clear of the frame. They do have "extractors" which lift the cartridge roughly a 1/4 inch so you can grab them with fingers to manually pull them out.
Secondly, you didn't mention which cartridge you are speaking about. Belted cases require the extractor to go down farther when you close the gun to clear the belt and then engage into the extraction groove in the case. There is a partial curved leaf type spring under the extractor that's designed to push the extractor up into the extraction groove in the case. So, is your complaint that it's not ejecting (and it's not supposed to), or not extracting so you can withdraw the case with your fingers? What "pin" are you talking about? extractors are "L" shaped with the case contour machined in? Pins do keep these in the hinge lug, but don't slide up into the ectraction groove.
Jim
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| Re: Spent Casing not ejecting [message #15168 is a reply to message #15165] |
Thu, 18 October 2012 11:24 |
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Crubear
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Let's see if I can describe it this way, I think this is a G2 barrel, but they're all the same basic setup.
The piece that comes off the barrel is the barrel lug. For the purists out there, the piece that slides into the large groove is the Locking Bolt. It's held in place by the roll pin just in front of the rectangle cut-in. Doesn't hurt to take this out occasionally and clean it out. Your cleaning fluids have a habit of collecting in here even when you're careful.
To remove the extractor, punch out the smaller pin (just above the m in 9mm). Then slide the extractor all the way out. There should be a small curved leaf spring and you will want to keep an eye out for it. It's not under tension, but I had it fall out without seeing it the first time and tried to figure out what was this thing lying on the floor.
The extractor is the long piece that extends all the way through the lug. The taller cutout is where the roll pin slips through, this keeps the extractor in the barrel. The shallow cutout is where the leaf spring goes, the ends of the spring should be inside this groove with the middle bend pointing out to the barrel lug.
Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
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| Re: Spent Casing not ejecting [message #15953 is a reply to message #15826] |
Tue, 13 November 2012 00:03 |
pzipp
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Registered: December 2011
Location: Frenchtown, MT
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Okay, I finally had time to check and see if the spring was in place, and it was. I haven't tried to bend the extractor pin yet, cause I wanted to run a few more things past you.
1) I noticed tonight that when I go to swap out my muzzle loader barrel with the 308, the hole on the 308 barrel has to be lined up with it broken over and then lock it into place. It's also a very tight fit. I can get the release lever to unlock, but it takes a good bit of effort. If I was comparing it to the ML barrel, I'd say it was about 50% more effort.
2) If I put in a spent casing from my son's 308 bolt action, it will extract it. I'm not sure what that means, but it's bound to mean something.
Let me know what you think I should do!
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