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Tell me it isn't so! [message #17260] Thu, 20 December 2012 22:54 Go to next message
Hammertime is currently offline  Hammertime
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I was at a gun store today and they said Thompson was dropping the Encore 243 barrel.
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17267 is a reply to message #17260] Fri, 21 December 2012 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know.. have you called to verify?
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17269 is a reply to message #17267] Fri, 21 December 2012 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just don't see that happening, but who knows.
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17294 is a reply to message #17269] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lepcur wrote on Fri, 21 December 2012 08:55
I just don't see that happening, but who knows.


They probably had one on the shelf they wanted to sell.


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Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17298 is a reply to message #17294] Sat, 22 December 2012 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I understand that T/C is dropping the 28" pro Hunter barrel. If so, that would mean the .243 in that barrel as well. If OP had inquired about one, that's what they could mean. Not all .243's, just the 28"

Jim
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17306 is a reply to message #17298] Sat, 22 December 2012 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Going to Cabela's website and Midway and just about every main dealer, I see very few barrels of any kind for sale. (some close out 204, 17HMR and 243 pistol barrels) ... As S&W folk now run all TC business, I wonder if there will be any future Encore and Contender line up at all...The black powder only (mail order OK product may be safe) just because of big store sales. Maybe just low year end inventory, but I am concerned, Smith should be making ARs like there is no tomorrow. Sad times. Bill Sad
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17308 is a reply to message #17306] Sat, 22 December 2012 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't doubt the contender's going to be around much longer. S&W is probaqbly highly run by bean-counters, and duplicity just don't hack it. Why offer an almost identical "weakling" when the encore can handle a lot more. S&W never was much on single shots, even back in the 1800's. They rebranded some imports off and on, rifles, shotguns and the like, but even they came and were soon gone. They'll sample around with different chamberings, barrel lengths, etc a weed out the less popular or lower profit margin. Soon they'll dictate what few chambers we'll be allowed to shoot.
With all the sensless slaughter with guns the past few years I think they see the handwriting on the wall, and Guns like the AR for civilian use are gonna be eliminated. "High" capacity handguns have a chance to be eliminated as well, and that's part of their current and for 30 years bread and butter. These guns are single shots, and maybe they hope they'll escape nasty regulation or bans, and could well become their best source of staying alive as a corporation.
Jim
Re: Tell me it isn't so! [message #17310 is a reply to message #17308] Sat, 22 December 2012 20:03 Go to previous message
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Jim,
You may have a point there regarding the Contenders, but I'm not going to rule them completely out until I see a press release or hear it from T/C / S&W. However, I can't say I agree with the assessment on duplicity, given that S&W carries 4 different sizes of revolver frames, going from the .22, .38, and .357's in the J and K/L frame revolvers, .41, .44, and .45 in the N frame, and .460 and .500 in the X frame (smallest to largest). I think that if anything, S&W might see the Contender / Encore in the same way - a small frame offering for the smaller calibers, and a large frame offering for the larger calibers.

I'm looking at this optimistically, even though I might have that same feeling as you do regarding what S&W does with the brand. I'm hoping for the best.

To me, the Encore is the single shot version of the AR when it comes to building one. I can't think of any other firearm that can compare to an AR in that you can modify them to fit your needs. You can do with a variety of different barrel sizes in various calibers. You can add different forearms to them, and we even have our choices of stock, even going so far as to have Choate offer a M-4 style collapsable stock for it.

I'd actually like to see S&W take T/C to the next level. We had the Contender, then they did an Encore. How about a T/C Maximum? Beefier frame with a Blackhawk KNOXX recoil reducing stock, better locking lugs, factory hanger bar system already installed in the forearm, chambered in some WSM, WSSM, and maybe even some big boys like the .338 Lapua. Smile Hey... I know I'm dreamin', but if I'm going to dream, I'll dream big!

All the best,
Glenn


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