| Hard to lock closed [message #22138] |
Sat, 11 May 2013 17:37  |
Deezil
Messages: 31
Registered: March 2013
Location: Lynden, WA.
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Picked up another barrel, I have three total, the other two lock with ease, but the new one, you have to really pop it up into place for it to stay closed, any idea's? its a stainless frame with a blued barrel..
Thanks
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| Re: Hard to lock closed [message #22143 is a reply to message #22138] |
Sat, 11 May 2013 21:17  |
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I am sure brighter minds then mine will come in and add to this but it sounds to me as if the locking bolts need to be polished a little. Take the barrel off of the frame and mark the locking bolts all around with a magic marker, then put the barrel back on the frame and try to close the barrel. Where the bolts are wiped clean of the magic marker is where you need to work. Take a fine hard stone and polish the bolts then repeat process. It should start to get eaier to close as you work. Go slow and be careful not to take off too much. It is easy, just time consumeing, but once done you can say I'm a gunsmith now.LOL It is fun to work on your own guns. Just take it slow.
Mr. Murl
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| Re: Hard to lock closed [message #22152 is a reply to message #22150] |
Sun, 12 May 2013 12:40 |
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Go real slow and easy; you do not want to take off too much. You will have to mount the barrel a few times but do the work with the barrel off of the frame. Do not want to get debris down into the frame. Good luck
Mr. Murl
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Molan Labe
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
“Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 4 BC – 65 AD
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because
we destroyed ourselves."
~ ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ ~
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| Re: Hard to lock closed [message #22173 is a reply to message #22152] |
Sun, 12 May 2013 22:42 |
Deezil
Messages: 31
Registered: March 2013
Location: Lynden, WA.
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Did some fiddling, noticed on my other barrel the extractor will go flush, on this barrel, it will not. so I took out the extractor and barrel locks easily. I dont see how this worked on anyone elses rig, but at least I know where to start. I cleaned some carbon off between the extractor and where it fits into the barrel, that helped some, so did a little filing to make it go it a tad more.
With a case in it, itll close pretty easily now, still takes a little help, so it may need a little more filing, but Itll get there.
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| Re: Hard to lock closed [message #22178 is a reply to message #22173] |
Mon, 13 May 2013 07:26 |
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Hey really glad you found what the problem was. I am really always glad when you find the problem and then have a plan of action. I glad that this problem seems to be an easy fix. That is great.
Mr. Murl
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Molan Labe
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
“Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 4 BC – 65 AD
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because
we destroyed ourselves."
~ ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ ~
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| Re: Hard to lock closed [message #24399 is a reply to message #24393] |
Tue, 24 September 2013 09:22 |
jamesgammel
Messages: 1708
Registered: August 2012
Location: Lovell, Wyoming
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Just a few points on these T/C break actions. You should never have to "slam close" one of these to get it to lock up properly. If all is well, you should be able to "sneek" close your actions and get them to lock up right. If it doesn't, don't accept it, find out where the problem is and correct it.
There should be NO difference in material type between stainless and blued , they should be totally interchangeable.
If you store your guns put together (especially over long periods) you risk the chance of weakening locking bolt springs. Bellm offers "stouter" locking bolt springs which *may* get your barrels to lock up tighter without having to resort to "stoning" surfaces. No guarantee, but may help in a few of these cases.
I once had a .22 contender barrel that wouldn't lock up correctly. It had a weaver scope mount on it. It was too long and would jam at the breech face. I don't know whether the screw holes were located too far back, or the mount itself was the culprit, but I had to file down the back edge of the mount to get it to close properly. I've too also had extractors that were too thick and didn't sit flush with the breech. If you have problems closing yours, first thing to check is the barrel's breech with a good straight-edge to eliminate if either of these already mentioned causes could be your cause.
If the barrel locks up fine when no cartridge is inserted, and the problem arises with a round loaded, it could be a headspacing issue. With rimmed rounds, it could be either the rim on the cartridge, or the rim counterbore. Be sure to check for dirt/crud issues being a cause, check behind the extractor as a place for this stuff to collect and cause a problem.
If you've pretty much eliminated some of these other issues, THEN stoning the locking bolts may be in order.
Jim
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