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Still too quiet here... [message #41016] Thu, 21 April 2016 10:05 Go to next message
Crubear is currently offline  Crubear
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OK, it's been a while. Surely someone has something they want to talk about? I mean, come on. It's spring

I also realize that we're busy folks... I've still got a reloading thing to run through. In my defense I went from 308 to 7-08 and was hoping to find enough brass, but! I then figured out I can convert all my 308 to 7-08!! Now all I need are the dies. And time.

So what's up?


Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41018 is a reply to message #41016] Thu, 21 April 2016 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's what's up, I'm wanting a bull barrel in .35 Whelen. I love the thought of a 20" but don't want to suffer too much drop out to 300yrds. Should I go with 22" or is that gonna gain enough to even worry about ?
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41021 is a reply to message #41018] Fri, 22 April 2016 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crubear is currently offline  Crubear
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A little searching and I found this... "I cut my 35 Whelen to 19 inches and still get 2500 fps with a 250 grain Speer spitzer. Plenty flat enough for me and I killed a coyote at a bit over 300 yards with it."

In one of the other sites I found someone who said... split the difference, go with 21". Generally, I go with what I want it to look and feel like and live with the results. If you reload you can use faster powders to make up for the difference in barrel length (to a point). What's really interesting is change in thinking as people do more and more testing. When I started shooting the rule was you lose about 50fps or so for every inch of barrel you cut off. For some calibers they've found the velocity goes up (powder was burned out by the time the bullet reached the end of the barrel). Now it's somewhere around 20-25 fps - per inch. So basically you're expecting to give up about 50fps from 22 to 20.

The only caveat is you can't put back on what's been cut off


Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!

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Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41022 is a reply to message #41021] Fri, 22 April 2016 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here's some good reading

http://www.guns.com/2012/02/16/the-myth-of-barrel-length-and -velocity-loss/
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_barrel.htm
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/10/daniel-zimmerman/th e-truth-about-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2014/04/barrel- length-shorter-better
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/


Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41023 is a reply to message #41022] Fri, 22 April 2016 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the reference links.
They've renewed my faith in my 'stumpy' contenders!
We need more guys like you out there.
You are appreciated. Thanks,
Jimmy


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Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41024 is a reply to message #41023] Fri, 22 April 2016 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those links were good reads. I think I'm going with 21" full bull.
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41198 is a reply to message #41024] Tue, 24 May 2016 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't even been out shooting Sad
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41199 is a reply to message #41198] Tue, 24 May 2016 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hurt my shoulder, shooting a Ruger 204 hurts.... Sad

Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41203 is a reply to message #41199] Tue, 24 May 2016 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What? 204?
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41204 is a reply to message #41199] Tue, 24 May 2016 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crubear wrote on Tue, 24 May 2016 09:02
I hurt my shoulder, shooting a Ruger 204 hurts.... Sad


Perfect time to practice shooting opposite your normal shoulder / eye. Very Happy

All the best,
Glenn


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Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41207 is a reply to message #41204] Wed, 25 May 2016 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eye shoot left handed because of eye dominance..... going right isn't ever going to work well... stupid rotator cuff injuries

Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
Re: Still too quiet here... [message #41216 is a reply to message #41207] Thu, 26 May 2016 15:54 Go to previous message
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