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| Re: 460? 270? [message #35511 is a reply to message #35510] |
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Mike;
I don't know why you wrote it either, but I sure do have to agree with you for the same reasons. Too me the 460 is too big and slow and won't reach out there and the 270 is just duplicated by so many other cartridges that will actually do better.
Mr. Murl
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Molan Labe
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
“Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 4 BC – 65 AD
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because
we destroyed ourselves."
~ ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ ~
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| Re: 460? 270? [message #35528 is a reply to message #35525] |
Thu, 08 January 2015 20:50 |
jamesgammel
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there's very few rounds that use .277 bullets. Yet, we go to a gun store and a large area on the shelf has different weights, brands, types. The we get to our caliber section and can't find Jack .... so we wonder why they can make so many 277's but not "X". Those boxes probably have 10 price sticker changes stacked. I've never known anyone that had a 270 (personally) yet every outfit and their brother carries it, you'd think it was a super popular one. Savage, mossberg, remington, winchester, ruger, browning, you name it they all have several models in 270 win. I've never even picked up a spent 270 at any range. It's a ghost cartridge. Plenty in the stores, even during the "shortage". Shelves empty but you can get all the 270 you'd ever want.
460 S&W: 45 colt on steroids= 454. 454 on steroids=460 The end just has to have S&W tacked to it. 500S&W. TC is just another platform to promote S&W
Go figure the very first thread I get to is http://www.encoreclassifieds.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&t h=12203&start=0&
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| Re: 460? 270? [message #35536 is a reply to message #35535] |
Thu, 08 January 2015 21:49 |
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Several years ago they were the rage. Everybody and his brother just had to have a 270. As most of you know I work part time in a gun shop and we haven't sold hardly any 270 ammo. During the deer season I think I sold one box but can't remember for sure. We haven't sold a rifle in 270 in a long time. We have never had anything in the 460 and no calls for it.
Mr. Murl
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Molan Labe
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
“Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 4 BC – 65 AD
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because
we destroyed ourselves."
~ ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ ~
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| Re: 460? 270? [message #35546 is a reply to message #35545] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 10:45 |
gemihur
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Jack O'Conner would disagree.
I personally, have no love lost for the .270 win, it does however seem like the logical progression toward the 25-06 which I hold great respect for.
As for as .277 bullets in general, the 6.8 SPC is a phenomonal round... tough finding the light bullets, tho. I do not however appreciate it's heritage to the now defunct .30 Rem.
For my money the 6.5 Grendel does all that the 6.8 Rem will ever dream of accomplishing with components that are readily found... but I'm wandering off topic.
The 270 is a cornerstone of shooting history in America, as is the 35 Remington and they are both dying as is the fiber of this nation by withering morals by politicians and the perverse values to foreign cultures and ideals. If we don't turn the tide in the next election, Hillary is gonna have us all on our knees facing East and hearing that wailing prayer to Allah!
Get straight, Vote straight and shoot straight!
Now I'll climb down off this here box ...
Think twice...shoot once.
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| Re: 460? 270? [message #35547 is a reply to message #35545] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 10:53 |
jamesgammel
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The 280 has had messed up history. It was intro'd as 280Rem, but sales were lacking. They thought they could give it a boost with a name change, 7mm express remington. That caused even worse confusion, too close to 7mm rem mag. So, back it flopped to 280 Rem.
I had one in a bicentennial Ruger 77, put a Bushnell BDC 6-24 on it and that sucker could perform WAY out there. Ballisticly trailed the 7mag by hairs. With 160 Sierra BTSP (Now prohunter) it'd stack bullets at 100. IF and that's a HUGE IF, I was to ever get an encore with just one barrel it'd be a 280, or better, 280 AI. Then find a way to Rim it. That 280 Ruger replaced a 93 sporterized (myself) mauser in 7X57. That sucker would stack those same 160 sierras as well, the reason I went with the 280. Wasn't suckered into the belted mag fold (dad was, he bout a bicent.77 7 mag at the same time, same store on a super sale)(ok I nudged him, he was shooting a 760 pump in 30-06). O'Connor (Jack) really touted the 270, probably the most read and respected gun-writer of his era. His wife, the 7X57.
Dad broke into hunting with a borrowed 8mm mauser in 52 after graduating dental school. He got that 760 30-06 and had it shortened and a weaver 4X put on it. I still remember going with him to pick it up. He really didn't need it shortened, he crowded it and constantly got scope bite for years. Thought that was the way it should be, like his war relic m1 carbine he had. I gave that 760 to my nephew, and the ruger with the 3-9 B&L to my son. First X-mas he had the ruger, I got both him and myself Ramline stocks for our 77's (complained it was heavier than his 760) He was doing a lot of sheep and goat hunting so it made sense. I sold my ruger around 84/5, hadn't shot it in years, but it kept bagging game from people borrowing it. By that time I was a strictly Contender Pistol shooter/hunter, and been every since.
Jim
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My first encore pistol barrel purchase was a 15" .270. Then I started realizing that in such a short barrel, a case the size of a .270 just holds too much powder. So now I am hunting with 7-30 and 7tcu.