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300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36043] Sun, 25 January 2015 14:31 Go to next message
56 kodiak shooter is currently offline  56 kodiak shooter
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if you had to choosed which would you pick the 300 win. mag or one of the short mags

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36044 is a reply to message #36043] Sun, 25 January 2015 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cajuntec is currently offline  cajuntec
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In the Encore platform, or in general?

If you are speaking Encore platform, there is no short mag choice. Nobody builds one, including the custom shops.

All the best,
Glenn

If at first you don't succeed... buy newer / better equipment!

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36046 is a reply to message #36044] Sun, 25 January 2015 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sunnysmarine is currently offline  sunnysmarine
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pressure is to high in the short mag, 300 win in a 26" heavy

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36049 is a reply to message #36046] Sun, 25 January 2015 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MGM rechambered some 308 Marlins to 300 Weatherby Mag, listed at Ed's. The short mags are also "fatter" (.555 vs. .532)than the belted mags, not leaving enough chamber wall left for the pressures they run at (65,000 vs 64,000). Bolt guns only.

Jim

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36052 is a reply to message #36049] Sun, 25 January 2015 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crubear is currently offline  Crubear
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Guess I'd choose a 300 win mag Wink

Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36127 is a reply to message #36052] Tue, 27 January 2015 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lepcur is currently offline  lepcur
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I think I'd go with the 300 Weatherby, it's a good1.

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36128 is a reply to message #36127] Tue, 27 January 2015 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doyle is currently offline  Doyle
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The short mags are also "fatter" (.555 vs. .532)than the belted mags
Then I guess there is no way to squeeze a .300RUM in there either (.550).

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36131 is a reply to message #36128] Wed, 28 January 2015 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jamesgammel is currently offline  jamesgammel
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The worst part on the frame and hinge pin is the back-thrust. 64,000PSI in a .375 case ie in a 223 or 222Rem mag) is LESS than that 64,000 in a .532 case. which is less than in a .550 case which is less than in a .555 case. That ,532 case was pretty much the max limit for the pin and the frame. Contender frame has a .375 pin, the encore what? .4375. The hinge lug on a contender is 1/2 inch (.500)Frame thickness on each side is .200, both sides together? .400. Which hole is prone to "egg" or elongate quicker or at lower pressures/less force? Obviously the frame's two holes. The hinge pin and the locking bolts are where? UNDER the centerline of the bore. When the round is touched off, how does that barrel want to move? It really wants to open, without the locking bolts it would open, and very quickly. The same is going on in the encore, you've just started with higher limits, don't think you can push it's limits endlessly.
Ponder this in a real world situation and apply it to this topic: You have a 20 ton hydraulic Jack, it's limit is what? 20 tons. You can jack up a heavy-ass trailer with it, right? Up to 20 tons. The jack sinks into the ground,the jack's base is 6X6 inches,36 sq. inches if it's square; the grounds limit has been exceeded. What can you do? Put a 12" 2X10 under the jack and it doesn't sink, and the trailer goes up. What does that suggest to you?
Jim

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Re: 300 mags.if you had the choice [message #36138 is a reply to message #36131] Wed, 28 January 2015 10:01 Go to previous message
Crubear is currently offline  Crubear
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The other thing to keep in mind is that even if the frame and barrel could handle the average pressures of these cartridges, there is always someone that thinks max is a starting point (trust me, I might have seen one or two). Now, take a setup that's barely hanging on and push it....

Lawyers don't get rich by looking at the stupidity of the individual that managed to injure or kill themselves.

Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!

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