No lockup [message #38409] |
Sat, 16 May 2015 15:55 |
wapiti
Messages: 4 Registered: April 2014 Location: colo
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Bought a used Encore. The locking lugs show that the lockup is all the way back against the barrel.I have 2 other barrels that show the same thing. I assume this means for all practical purposes no lockup.None of these barrels will put 2 simultaneous shots on paper. Is there a reasonable solution? Do I have to send it back to TC to get fixed and since I bought it used will they take it?Any help is appreciated.
JIM
JIM
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Re: No lockup [message #38413 is a reply to message #38412] |
Sat, 16 May 2015 19:25 |
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cajuntec
Messages: 1250 Registered: November 2009 Location: Williamsburg, VA
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I didn't quite understand this one either.
The bolts have to be engaging in order to cock the firearm. If the locking bolts aren't coming out after you close the action, locking it in place, then they aren't engaging the interlock. The firearm wouldn't cock, and therefore, you never could have fired it, so I'm still scratching my head as to what you are trying to describe.
How do the locking bolts "show" that the lockup is all the way back under the barrel (retracted)? If you're seeing marks on them, that's normal, because they retract as you are closing the barrel in the frame, and then spring back out into it, engaging the interlock and allowing the firearm to fire. If they weren't engaging at all, you would have a few things happen:
1) The aforementioned "firearm wouldn't cock, and therefore wouldn't fire"
2) You wouldn't need to pull on the cocking spur to unlock the barrel for loading / unloading.
IF your firearm is not locking up (you don't have to pull the cocking spur to open the action), AND you still can pull back the hammer and fire, then please STOP IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE YOUR FIREARM IS BROKEN AND UNSAFE. It should never be allowed to function in that condition.
The ONLY thing I can thing of, and I sincerely hope this isn't the case, because I'd be surprised if you shot the firearm and didn't get hurt - is if you are slipping the barrels with forend attached in place without the hinge pin installed. If that is the case, please stop shooting your firearm immediately and get a hinge pin and a manual. I doubt if this is the case, as you would have to be extremely lucky to fire it like that and not get severely hurt.
If you could post pics of what you are talking about, that would be best. Hopefully, we can figure out what is going on here, because I've never heard of anyone having the issues you are trying to describe. It really just doesn't make sense.
All the best,
Glenn
If at first you don't succeed... buy newer / better equipment!
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Re: No lockup [message #38429 is a reply to message #38425] |
Tue, 19 May 2015 01:00 |
wapiti
Messages: 4 Registered: April 2014 Location: colo
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Yes I was referring to the locking bolts. When I put Ink on them as viewed from the top down the ink is erased all the way back to the lug that is part of the barrel when the action is closed. This doesn't seem right.
. All the springs are in place and one one I just got from Bellms; I spoke to mike or Kurt Bellm and they used the phrase no lockup or incorrect lockup or words to that effect. I bought a barrel from Bellms' last year with same problems. He told me to do the ink test described with the same result. He had me send the barrel back and he replaced it with another and the results are the same. Hope this clarifies things.
THanks JIM.
JIM
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Re: No lockup [message #38437 is a reply to message #38433] |
Tue, 19 May 2015 13:16 |
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Crubear
Messages: 1798 Registered: March 2010 Location: NW Georgia
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Contact TC/S&W
Honestly, I have all the barrels I want or could ever need..... wait, look, there's another!!
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