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Encore action strength: 45-70 [message #46145] Sat, 08 August 2020 10:52 Go to next message
DrHoward1955 is currently offline  DrHoward1955
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I've got an Encore chambered in 45-70. I'll be handloading for it so I need some information on action strength.
I know it's stronger than a Springfield trapdoor, but not as strong as a Ruger, or 1885 Winchester.
Would it be reasonable and safe to put it on par with the 1886 Winchester, or Marlin lever rifles?
Re: Encore action strength: 45-70 [message #46147 is a reply to message #46145] Sat, 08 August 2020 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DrHoward1955 is currently offline  DrHoward1955
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Many thanks to the moderator for guiding this conversation to the correct heading.
I'm a wee bit slow on these things.
Makes better sense here......
Re: Encore action strength: 45-70 [message #46148 is a reply to message #46147] Sat, 08 August 2020 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure, as I don't own one and haven't reloaded for one.

Lee 2nd edition has one section for 45-70 "All guns in Good Condition", another for "Model 95 Lever action" (say's not to use these loads in trapdoor or rolling block arms), and another for "Modern bolt action or Ruger single shot arms".

Hornady 8th edition has one section for "Trap Door", one for "1895 Marlin", one for "Ruger #1", and a separate section for "T/C Handgun"

Sierra 7th edition breaks it down to "1873 Trapdoor Springfield - including Remington Rolling Block, other old black powder rifles, replicas, and modern reproductions", "1886 Winchester, Sharps-Borchardt, Remington and Navy Arms Rolling Block designs", and "Model 1895 Marlin and Ruger #1 and #3 rifles", but also includes a section for "Single Shot pistols"

So because of that, I'd probably say no, and stick with the "All guns in Good Condition", "T/C Handgun" or "Single Shot pistols" sections, depending on whether you have a rifle or handgun barrel.

All the best,
Glenn


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Re: Encore action strength: 45-70 [message #46150 is a reply to message #46148] Tue, 11 August 2020 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DrHoward1955 is currently offline  DrHoward1955
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Glenn,
Thank you for your advice. I'm also seeing that the Encore action will withstand the chamber pressure of a 338 magnum. The Ruger loads for the 45-70 get to 50k pounds. That means it ought to handle it. However, I think I'll err on the side of caution and agree with your assessment. Go to the safe side!!!
It is a rifle barrel.
Thanks,
John

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Re: Encore action strength: 45-70 [message #46234 is a reply to message #46150] Sun, 27 September 2020 13:57 Go to previous message
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I stick with loads that are in the trapdoor load ranges. Encore is a light weight,so heavy loads give alot of recoil.Trapdoor loads will get the job done.
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