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| Re: 308 Rifle woes [message #17159 is a reply to message #16796] |
Tue, 18 December 2012 01:14   |
jingles
Messages: 17
Registered: December 2012
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I bought the 308 this summer and have put all kind of factory ammo through it and am seeing the same thing as you. I cant believe I sunk 800bucks into buying this gun and it shoots so poorly. I guess its a good way to learn about the gun. I am going to do the head space shimming and hope that improves accuracy. if that doesnt solve it i may buy a different caliber barrel. I have just started reloading and all the brass has to be trimmed???After one shooting
telecaster
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| Re: 308 Rifle woes [message #17504 is a reply to message #17501] |
Fri, 28 December 2012 10:49 |
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I have a Belm Bergara barrel that takes four fouler shots and then settles down and shoots sub-moa after that. Each barrel is different. I have a T/C 308 stainless that shoots a fouler and the four into a cluster much like the one you have. I have a 223 T/C barrel that has probably 2500 rounds through it and still shoots 5/8 groups cold but gets better as it warms up. Just have to go out and foul your barrel before you take it hunting. That's what I do, foul, hunt, and clean and put it away. Just have to learn what your barrel will do and go with it. Enjoy.
Mr. Murl
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| Re: 308 Rifle woes [message #18722 is a reply to message #17571] |
Fri, 25 January 2013 08:11 |
hendeSt1
Messages: 2
Registered: March 2011
Location: Northern VA.
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I too have a T/C in a .308 that I fought for years and many $$ trying to get it to at least be consistent. I stayed in pretty close contact with Mike Bellm who was a good source of help/troubleshoting. I sent my first barrel back which T/C replaced then;
1) 1X oversized hinge pin.
2) Pillar bedded the stock
3) Trigger reworked by Mike Bellm
4) hand loads, and checking the head space. Sierra 150 Gr. Prohunters, over 41.5 gr. of 4895
5) Installed a muzzle break (biggest improvement)
6) 1 Piece scope base, and a good scope, got rid of the junk.
7) Let the barrel cool enough during your strings, heat would cause my vertical stringing.
I can now say that many years of frustration and work it is now shooting very consistent 3/4 to 1" groups.
I also had a Bergarra barrel in 7mm-08 that I couldnt get to shoot, I think the muzzle brake and locking springs were the biggest improvement.
Hope this helps,
Steve Henderson
Newbie to forum
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| Re: 308 Rifle woes [message #18772 is a reply to message #18723] |
Sat, 26 January 2013 11:28 |
rchatting
Messages: 499
Registered: August 2011
Location: Middle Georgia
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Doyle wrote on Fri, 25 January 2013 08:35Quote:Well, the extend of my cleaning unless it is really dirty is 2 passes of a bore snake with Remoil on it
We may be on to something here. Are you drying out the barrel before your first shot at the range? If you've oiled your bore, then that oil is going to affect the first shot far more than subsequent shots. Next time you go to the range, start out by giving it a couple of passes with a totally dry patch and see what happens to the first few shots.
I'll have to give it a shot. However, I treat all of my guns/barrels this way and this is the only one that is giving me a problem. I am of the opinion, if the others aren't having this problem, then it has to have something to do with this particular barrel/setup.
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